Let me try this again. So back when Serge left System of a Down, I went to 1 of his shows. Went around back and I got to meet him and a random guy and a hoodie. I was smoking a cigarette at the time. And after this awesome conversation with 1 of my heroes, I flicked the cigarette on the ground and surge lost his mind. Were you going to pick that up and then he walked away? And I was mortified, the guy in the hoodie apologized to Surge and he said, don't worry about them, he's anal about this sort of thing. I asked him. What his name was? It was Ryan Dunn. Wiggle wiggle pop.