So, years ago, when Serge Tankian went on his own, he separated from System of a Down, I went to 1 of the shows, talked to the right people, I got to go around back and meet him and he was standing there. It was freezing with a guy in a hoodie and a, and a beanie I was smoking at the time. So when I was done with my cigarette, not even thinking I flicked it straight to the ground in front of surge. And he looked at me and was like, are you going to go pick that up, man? And I was like nervous. I'm like buddy, you're like 1 of my heroes and now you're screaming at me. So he walked off the guy that was standing next to him. He said, man, you know, you got to kind of forgive him, he's really anal about that sort of thing. And then I looked at him and I was like, are you Ryan Dunn? And it was Ryan Dunn. So there you go. Got yelled at by 1 of my heroes and met Ryan Dunn.