Okay, so when I was first living in New York, I was walking dogs while I was trying to find gigs like playing drums and in 1 of the buildings, I was walking mod the hound dog. And as I was going out of the building, I ended up striking up a conversation with RuPaul. Who happened to live in the building and Rue was like, hey do you mind if I walk around with you for a while and me and RuPaul walked mod the hound dog around the West Village and Rue was like, you know, these dogs, they're not thinking about the past, they're not thinking about the future, they're thinking about now, isn't that beautiful? And just got to talk existentialism with RuPaul, that was a fun 1.