hey news, Junkies uh, I can tell you for a fact. That there are people who uh they're too new down the shower drains. I got a good buddy. Uh, who is adamant about it? I have had long drunken talks with him, trying to talk him out of it. But his, his, his his uh, his main point I think is that uh Say saves on a saves on toilet paper. I guess he wash your ass but for me uh the cost is too great but those people are out there that do the old waffle stomp disgusting. oh, Charles